Tunnel Rat posted on August 7, 2013 08:47

Our favorite slumdog sweatshop is facing yet more legal action.  Former collaborator turned pro-insurgent blogger Don Tennant was the first to break the story:

A class-action lawsuit has been filed against Infosys, alleging that the company has engaged in systematic, company-wide discrimination against Americans and others who are not of South Asian descent. The suit details alleged discriminatory practices stemming from the company’s abuse of the H-1B and B-1 visa programs, and makes extensive reference to alleged illegal and discriminatory activities revealed by Infosys employee and original whistleblower, Jay Palmer.

The new lawsuit, filed on Aug. 1 in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin, was brought on behalf of Brenda Koehler, an American IT project manager in Milwaukee who, the suit alleges, was denied employment at Infosys because she is not of South Asian descent. According to the complaint, “this matter is a class action with an amount in controversy of greater than $5 million.” Daniel Kotchen of Kotchen & Low LLP in Washington, D.C., lead counsel on the legal team that filed the lawsuit, was adamant about the egregiousness of Infosys’s actions.

“We are convinced there are very serious issues with Infosys,” Kotchen said. “We believe strongly in the case, and we look forward to prosecuting it...”

Tennant was a shill for the slumdog slave trade until insurgents hounded him into reporting the truth about the curry scented wage pirates.  He was doing extensive coverage about the Jay Palmer case, and recently blogged about it in regards to the latest case:

It’s been almost two-and-a-half years since I began covering the remarkable case of Jay Palmer, the Infosys employee from Alabama who summoned the courage to blow the whistle on alleged visa fraud at the Indian IT services provider. Those allegations would prompt grand jury subpoenas and spark a multi-agency investigation of Infosys’s conduct by the U.S. government.

Beyond the government investigation, it was evident from the outset that the case would have far-reaching consequences. The first of many times I would interview Kenny Mendelsohn, Palmer’s attorney, was in March, 2011. Among the questions I asked Mendelsohn in that very first interview was this one: “Do you think there's a case for a class-action lawsuit by U.S technology workers who believe visa fraud is depriving them of job opportunities, because positions are being filled by people working here under fraudulent circumstances?”

There was a pause, and then Mendelsohn responded in his slow, Alabama drawl.

“I haven't really studied it. In the back of my mind, it makes me think there could be,” he said, clearly intrigued by the question. “I haven't really gathered all the factual information or ever focused on it. But as you ask the question about class action, I'm thinking maybe there is a potential there...”

This lawsuit may have legs and may be the final nail in the coffin for Infosys. 

Grant Gross, a worthy insurgent, has also covered the story at ComputerWorld.  The Wall Street Journal, that notorious pro-slumdog publication, has even picked up the story, in an article written of course by some Desi writer.  Slashdot is on the case, as is much of the IT media.  

THERE WILL BE RETRIBUTION

 


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United States Tipster
August 7. 2013 11:41
Tipster

Unfortunately like the Palmer case, this may not get much traction in the courts, even it is obvious that Infosys is a blatant discriminator against Americans. If by some fluke this goes forward, every outsourcing company in the US will be facing a class action lawsuit.


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United States Boss
August 8. 2013 00:51
Boss

I think this case can take its shape, given that there is proper evidence for everything. Someone has to frame this case properly closing all loopholes with convincing evidence, that's it..


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United States db
August 13. 2013 12:47
db

While making money is fun, I'm more worried about the legacy of commits and countless fuckups these idiots have put into code.


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United States Perplexed
August 14. 2013 12:08
Perplexed

These H1-B's from India truly suck. I have so many stories about working with them. I mean aside from the messy bathrooms, the stench etc.

The American women that I worked with avoided them like they had died last week. If they (the Indian H1-B's) got on an elevator with them, they got off. Once I was stuck in an elevator with an American girl and six slumdogs. The elevator got stuck for a few minutes, a minor glitch. The girl almost threw up from the stench.

I really wonder what the deal is with them. What, you can't take a bath in the morning? Wear clean clothes? Not mess up the bathroom?
I don't know why American management likes them so much. They are horrible coders, don't fit in with the American Corporate culture, lie like hell, don't meet deadlines and screw things up big time.

Is it really worth the money? I mean the sixty bucks an hour you pay them could go to an American who would then be able to support a family, pay taxes, buy a house, a car and invest in the country. Someone in the corporate hiring chain must be skimming a hell of a lot of money to bring in these idiots.

The scabs all send their $$$ home while dreaming of scoring with a hot American girl. They all have dreams of humping their way across the U.S.A. based on the lies that they have heard in their country about how "easy" the American babes. are. I've not met a woman in the U.S. that would have anything to do with them. Their horrible dress, manners and smell preclude that.

It's not a good match these two countries or should I say east and west?


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United States Hindu_ass
August 14. 2013 12:23
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United Kingdom Mr X
August 15. 2013 02:38
Mr X

I am a c++ dev. I am thinking of switching to .NET. Are .NET pay rates still good?


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United States Hindu_Ass
August 15. 2013 21:23
Hindu_Ass

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../21844065.cms

US county abandons TCS project, files lawsuit


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United States Boss
August 15. 2013 21:31
Boss

To Mr X
Market for .NET depends on the area where you live. If you are in NY and have 5 -10 years of exp , you can fetch up to 65-85/Hr on W2, depending on the company. Financial clients in NY (most of them) pay "per day" basis. You might be getting around 650 to 800/day. Catch here is ,you should ask them what is considered "a day", meaning how many Hrs? Most of them say 8-10 Hrs. So "per day" strategy is to get "free overtime" from you. They call it a "Professional Day" ! lol..  

In other areas where Desi population is dense, like NJ etc.. you are lucky if you get 55-60/Hr. There are lot and lots of H1Bs who are ready to even work for 20-30/Hr. They live places like Edison or Metropark area, where 4-8 people live in an apartment.

I can say with confidence that .NET market in 2013 is worse than it used to be 3 years back and keeps declining due to Indian influx. Can't help man..Our country and Companies care about Profit, not us.


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United Kingdom Mr X
August 16. 2013 01:30
Mr X

Thanks Boss


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United States uscitizen
August 16. 2013 07:39
uscitizen

@Mr X, this site was cooked up by an asp.net hack who cannot find jobs coz no one sane wants to go anywhere near a Microsoft Technology these days.
If you know .Nut you will get Peanut =)


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United States uscitizen
August 16. 2013 09:46
uscitizen

Ol man Murthy had a company
Java , C++, python
And in his company he had some desis
C#, JS, Ruby
Here a Desi, there a Desi everywhere a Desi Desi Desi =)


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United States TaxiDriver
August 16. 2013 20:38
TaxiDriver

Does anyone believe that the unemployment numbers has plummeted for software developers to 2.2 %?  Or is that the executive branch putting the muscle on the BLS to hype the low unemployment of software developers so that they can justify the anticipated upcoming doubling of H-1b's?

www.computerworld.com/.../Unemployment_rate_for_electrical_engineers_soars

TD


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United Kingdom Mr X
August 17. 2013 01:51
Mr X

@uscitizen I don't think so. Ruby, python, javascript and other kiddie script languages will get you peanuts.
Banks, Insurance companies, and serious corporations, which pay good cash use .NET
Shitty startups use shitty open source crap.
Even a C++ application dev like me, is unfortunately seen as an open source hacker, and thus payed miserably. I don't want to work ever again with open source sh*#t.
javascript is actually a powerful language, but is also easy to learn and to download free scripts. So the market is saturated with lots of kids who learned a few tricks and think they are experts.


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United States Boss
August 17. 2013 03:59
Boss

Just noted that Desis are pushing for Immigration Reform in their Indian immigration website trackitt. They never use word "Indian Immigration", instead use "Legal Immigration" ! (oops typo??). EB Category for India has a long queue due to overwhelming number of applications from this country. That does not mean that all so called "Legal Immigration" is backlogged.India has the longest queue due to lot of people. Even China EB category is moving really fast ,since they have started creating jobs in their country and no more parasites. Desis are interested in
1. Removing 7% per country cap   2. Visa Recapture  3. Increase GreenCard numbers
4. Exclude dependents from GC quota !!  5. H1B visas to be stamped inside the country. (Now slumdogs have to go to India to get it stamped)  6. Allow H4 (H1 Dependents) to work. !! etc..  WTF?


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United States James
August 17. 2013 12:01
James

@uscitizen

"no one sane wants to go anywhere near a Microsoft Technology these days."

Wait.... you mean MS - the company slumdogs took over 10 years ago?

Looks like you didn't do too good a job innovating and keeping Microsoft on top maderchod.

Just more proof you are all takers and the cause of America's economic ills.


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United States uscitizen
August 18. 2013 05:11
uscitizen

@X,

Opensource is extensively used in the financial world.
A majority of which include Java based Apache and Redhat libraries and frameworks.
I cant see .net scaling on Winsucks, to the extent java based technology scales on *NIX. Btw, C++ still pays top $ especially on wall st if you are equally competent in writing good algorithms that do stuff like FIX, SWIFT processing. If I were you, I would get into a vertical rather than switch languages.

Just my 2c,
-uscitizen


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United States uscitizen
August 18. 2013 05:16
uscitizen

Dude James,

Its funny you think I am desi, you are the madachod LOL
Stick with your obselete sony apis, racist pigs like you are not fit to even lick assholes of immigrants like me.

-ustizen

ps: Btw, did you find a job yet with that attitude ? I know its tough...but keep trying LOL


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United States James
August 18. 2013 08:41
James

@uscitizen

Racist? There are LAWS On the books making it illegal to hire white people in India.

I just watched a show about how Singapore wouldn't let any competing airlines in in order to "protect" its domestic industries.

Meanwhile India continues to ban Wal-Mart and Target from opening shop in India in order to protect all the local Indians.

USA accepts over a million immigrants a year - more than all other countries combined.

If anyone is racist, it's India.

I have my own company and am doing quite well thanks, maderchod.


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United States uscitizen
August 19. 2013 13:28
uscitizen

@James a.k.a Jaffer the asskisstan bufoon,

Who cares what India does.
Btw, nothing is worse from the hell hole you and your ancestors came from.
Now go back and read your Koran ahole.

-Uscitizen


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United States Tipster
August 19. 2013 19:54
Tipster

@James:

Every other country in the world seems to have protectionist laws on its books with no international protest. Except the US. It seems that here in the  US unless you work for the military/intelligence sector where US citizenship is required, every other job is fair game to be outsourced. Which is how we have companies like Infosys working in the US with a wholly foreign workforce. Absolutely ridiculous situation. W


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United States Robert Hoffman
August 20. 2013 11:32
Robert Hoffman

@James

That's the universal Indian solution to all of India's cutural problems, call the person who brings it up a racist. You can be explaining to an Indian that smells like he crapped his pants 3 days ago that in America extreme body odor is considered offensive and what's the response...you're a racist. Catch them cheating...you're a racist. Confront their racial discrimination...you're a racist. Challenge their rape culture...you're a racist. Like I said, it's the universal Indian solution and proves with certainty uscitizen is not only desi, but brahmin.


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United States uscitizen
August 21. 2013 07:47
uscitizen

@James,

Coming up with aliases like James and Robert Hoffman or Hoffwoman, does not change who you are. You are a koran reading clown. And Bra what ??

@Tipster, you said it. Every country has protectionist policies. Yes even in the USofA. Ever seen a cop car from a manufacturer in Japan/China/Korea ? Not only are they protected, but tax payer $$ is freely gifted to them. LOL.

Btw, the way I see it, the USofA is like the Roman empire. We are a declining power. Everyday our freedom of speech and constitutional rights are slowly being taken away, while all you dimwits see is the small picture about jobs and s## and whether to make gay marriage and pot legal or not. Except for a few people like Dr Paul, no one cares anymore.


Truly pathetic.

-Uscitizen


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United States Drifter
August 21. 2013 09:16
Drifter

USCitizen isn't Brahmin or anything close to that. He is Pakistani, wishing he had an opportunity to come to the US. Was that koran thing supposed to be an insult or something?


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United States Perplexed
August 21. 2013 11:38
Perplexed

Having an Indian call an American a racist is almost funny. This from the country where 400 million Dalits are kept in perpetual slavery.
Higher caste Indians will not intermingle with the lower caste Dalits even if they are educated and have good jobs.
In fact, the Brahmins complain bitterly about the quotas the government has for the Backward Castes (lower castes).
It's not enough for the higher caste Indians that these people have been subjugated for many thousands of years. They don't care.
So, when you are dealing with an H1-B. don't be mistaken by their mild manners. They are plotting harm with every move. They are not trustworthy in any fashion (Told to me by a few of my Indian friends as well as personal experience).
CYA because they will try to take you down by attaching a project failure or other incident onto you.
One time I was porting an Windows Server backend app to Linux. Unfortunately the Linux admins would not give me admin privileges on the test servers.
So, I had to rely on a H1-B to do the most simple of things for me.
His manager, another H1-B would delay and deny my requests. It got to the the point that I would have to beg to get the dimpliest of things done. The admin was apologetic but said he was constrained by his manager.
The project delayed for three months because of this. When it finally was finished upper management demanded to know the delay. The manager pinned it on me, it was all my fault you see..
Fortunately I kept an email trail and sent it to the VP in charge explaining the situation. That was the end of it except the project manager was demoted and moved to a cube next to mine. I made it a point to poke my head in there every once in a while and give him a big smile.
The H1-B program has corrupted what was once a great industry.


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United States Robert Hoffman
August 22. 2013 00:32
Robert Hoffman

India's culture of rape makes the CNN front page, again. All those good little brahmin boys stealing American IT jobs would never do anything in America to jeopardize getting their green cards. Yah, right. And what about after they get their green cards?

www.cnn.com/.../index.html?hpt=hp_c3


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United States Tipster
August 22. 2013 12:24
Tipster

Having companies that are staffed by H1-B workers set up shop here in the US and expect them to hire US citizens is like putting a fox to guard the hen house. One doesn't have to be Einstein to predict the hiring patterns of such companies. If Honda and Toyota were staffing their factories in the US with 80% Japanese workers, I'm sure it would make for some rather interesting headlines. But the authorities have looked the other way for far too long when tech companies like Infosys do exactly that with their Indian staff at their US offices.


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United States ForzaAzzuri
August 23. 2013 06:23
ForzaAzzuri

There is an indian guy in Boston going around pretending to be a cab driver raping girls.


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United States James
August 23. 2013 12:43
James

I am certain Anil Bhavnani was a Brahmin.

But no matter dear friends. I pushed all his buttons and got him deported. As a result he's back in India now.

And he will never set foot in America again.

Too bad for him.


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United States Boss
August 23. 2013 22:38
Boss

"I wanted to hire Canadians, but I was told no," said the former manager, who agreed to speak only anonymously. "I had to hire Indian people [as temporary foreign workers], and they didn’t have the skills."

www.cbc.ca/.../bc-foreignworkers.html


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United States Boss
August 24. 2013 00:22
Boss

People including me are fed up of these slumdogs replacing us. Also in most of the companies IT department hiring managers are slumdogs now! They take my interview to get me a job in my country!!! We somehow are limiting ourselves expressing our anger on forums etc..

But think for a minute! Who is the real culprit? Its not Indians..They are just a "symptom" of a big problem. Actual problem is CAPITALISM! Indians are invited by our COMPANIES and POLITICIANS to take our jobs. If these ELITE class can't bring them in, they will outsource everything to India.They all need to be  richer  and richer...That is CAPITALISM. So it is MIDDLE CLASS vs ELITE CLASS, NOT  AMERICANS vs INDIANS. They need profit from cheap labor and unpaid overtime!

Point 1:

Studying STEM in US was affordable during 80s and mid 90s. Big US COMPANIES lobbied in the end of 90s and University fees were hiked drastically that US Students cannot afford it anymore! Can they take Student Loan and study? Yes, but they will not take that "Risk" since there is no guarantee that they will get a Job in slumdog monopolized IT industry! RESULT is eminent , as COMPANIES expected..They can import people from India claiming that there are no STEM graduates locally available,so they have to import them from India!!

Point 2:

If you notice closely , IT industry is the only industry with "NO License" requirement. Even a plumber or a barber (cosmetology license) needs a license to perform his profession. Anybody can be an "Expert HIGH SKILLED LABOR" by doing a 8 weeks programming course and making a "Fake Resume". No license requirement and very easy money!!  
Good One hmmm.. COMPANIES and POLITICIANS want to keep this industry this way!!

Point 3:

No Labor unions for IT workers. I haven't heard of any labor union for IT workers. If we had one ,wages ,working Hrs, Work culture etc.. would have been regulated. Can we take initiative to make a Labor Union for US IT folks?

So, solution is to fix these listed issues. We have to fix this at the root level not at the symptom level. MIDDLE CLASS Should NOT allow ELITE CLASS to exploit our weakness!! Hope the message is clear!





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United States Boss
August 24. 2013 04:30
Boss

THE BEST JOKE FOR WEEKEND..
"There are no skilled workers unemployed,' says Sarvesh Dharayan. He says without more H-1B visas, he'll have trouble finding the kind of high-skill workers he needs"

Look who is saying this. Someone who is already in Jail for fraud! Now we know the legitimacy of these kind of statements!

www.njbiz.com/.../Companies-need-&


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United States Robert Hoffman
August 25. 2013 02:37
Robert Hoffman

Read about the Tata class action suit that cost $29.75 million to settle out of court. That's not huge for Tata, but I bet it hurt. It's at the bottom of this article.

asia.legalbusinessonline.com/.../111759


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United States James
August 25. 2013 07:08
James

We are not living in capitalism. We are living in communism. Taking entire industries created by one group of people and giving them away to people who can't even build enough toilets is communism, not capitalism. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need".

Globalization == The New World Communism.


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United States uscitizen
August 26. 2013 06:45
uscitizen

@Boss,

You are an idiot.

While it would make sense for dumb fucks like you to unionize, it makes no sense for brilliant knowledge workers who command what they make and who corporations would pay big $$ to bring in as consultants. Thankfully, it will continue to be so as current technologies get obselete by newer ones so fast that its impossible to conduct tests and issue certificates and s$$t.

Ya right, unions....
Look what unions did to the car companies in Detroit and to Detroit in general. Capitalism and free markets baby.

You have no business in this field if you are not constantly learning and innovating. If you want to relax and take it easy go work at your local walmart.

If you think corporations are screwing you, screw them back. Go join an open source project and make it better.
I am surprised at the entitlement mentality of some of you on this site.


Truly pathetic..


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United States Boss
August 27. 2013 00:19
Boss

@uscitizen

First of all, your language using abusive words ,indeed shows that you are the "Best and Brightest" from India. Anybody including me can write such abusive language,hiding behind a computer. Do you want me to address you with words like F**k etc.. ? Its very easy...It shows how pathetic and degraded you are  and I know it did hit at the right nerve..

Your entire post can be summarized as this "You can earn more and more by updating your SKILLS"!!. My friend you are forgetting the basic rule of Supply vs Demand. Assume that a new technology came to the market and let us say there are 10 openings ,if number of people applying is 1000 , your updating skill will not get you big $$..
The whole point is to regulate the supply and stop flooding the market with cheap labors.

--"constantly learning and innovating"
We all know how much INNOVATION H1Bs and L1s are doing here. Also we know how many Operating systems and Programming languages are "Invented" in the nation of "Best and Brightest" ,India.




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United States James
August 27. 2013 14:36
James

@Boss

uscitizen like most Indians uses abusive language, because like most Indians, he has the mentality of a child. Most Indians sre childish, and arrogant. Not to mention dumb and fakers to boot.

I have top iOS and Objective-C skills uscitizen, which is as current as you can het yet I am still unemployed.

Why?

We all know why - because an army of Indians with brainwashed historical hangups ablut white people are here keeping us all out of jobs, that's why.

We all know the score, so your lies won't change that.

"entitlement": losers from the 3rd world who think they deserve jobs in someone else's country even though they are temporary "guests".


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United States James
August 27. 2013 14:40
James

India has never invented even one single programming language let alone any OS.

Real innovative geniuses. These people can not even build enough toilets for their own people.

We all know India, Inc. is nothing but a giant army here to rip us off via mass remittances while destroying everything.

Their profanity just shows their anger - which is the result of their jealousy for not being able to invent or create anything.

A parasitic nation living off the White Genius.

The Indian Drag on the US economy is the source of all our problems.


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United States uscitizen
August 28. 2013 08:33
uscitizen

@Boss/@James/@Hoffwoman/whoever you are,

>First of all, your language using abusive words ,indeed shows that you are the >"Best and Brightest" from India. Anybody including me can write such abusive >language,hiding behind a computer. Do you want me to address you with words like >F**k etc.. ? Its very easy...It shows how pathetic and degraded you are  and I >know it did hit at the right nerve..

And I suppose its OK to call stuff in your local lingo ?
Keep thinking, you have no idea who I am.

>Your entire post can be summarized as this "You can earn more and more by >updating your SKILLS"!!.

Absolutely. This is a field that knows no bounds. New languages and technologies keep ousting older ones. So like it or not, to stay relevant you HAVE to update.

>My friend
Sorry, my friends are much smarter than you are.

>you are forgetting the basic rule of Supply vs Demand.
>Assume that a new technology came to the market and let us say there are 10 >openings ,if number of people applying is 1000 , your updating skill will not >get you big $$.. The whole point is to regulate the supply and stop flooding the >market with cheap labors.
Are you for real ? The whole reason why some of us have jobs always and why we get paid top $$ is, we design,write better code and can actually transform business requirement into a working product.

Its not like working in Walmart or McDi. Sure 1000 may apply, but the wannabe programmers 700 out of the 1000 will have no clue and will not get beyond the HR/recruiter (I am talking about folks like James). Another 150 will know some remotely close to what they are looking for, they will get outed in the technical phone screening. Another 100 will simply apply and will not bother to reply back. Out of the 50, 10 may be asked to come for  an interview and 1 will be picked out (maybe). What I am trying to say is your hypothesis is flawed.

Look at James for example. Objective C is a language used exclusively to develop apps on the iphone. If he is really good at what he does, he will get jobs at small startups the kind founded by a kid who has a rich dad. But opportunities diminish if James wants to work for a financial company on wall street or a networking startup like mine. The language of choice is Java and C++. If James is smart and he is willing to learn new technologies, new verticals, be nice to people, stop being a racist and stop lying, things could change for him.

-UsCitizen


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United States uscitizen
August 28. 2013 08:37
uscitizen

@James,

>I have top iOS and Objective-C skills uscitizen, which is as current as you can het yet I am still unemployed.

Thought you were happily employed and making big $$ LOL


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United States Perplexed
August 29. 2013 11:10
Perplexed

Well, I don't know if the "Indian Drag" on our economy is the source of ALL of our problems. I can tell you that if tomorrow every one of the Indian H1-B's was deported then a million jobs paying $60 dollars an hour would be available.
A million jobs... Can you imagine the impact of this? Not only would a million good paying jobs suddenly appear, but the psychological boost to the country at this good news would be massive. A million new jobs, houses bought, Home Depot trips, taxes paid, well you get the drift.
Screw Microsoft and all the other damn corporations who behave as Privateers..
Enough


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United States Boss
August 29. 2013 12:01
Boss

L1 Frauds (mainly from India) to be punished immediately. Reports on EB1C, EB3 and EB2>>EB3 (interfiling) will be published within weeks.

Summary of this 50-page report indicates that Senator Charles Grassley requested that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Office of Inspector General examine the potential for fraud or abuse in the L-1 intracompany transferee visa program. Through domestic and international fieldwork, the OIG observed DHS personnel and Department of State consular officials process L-1 petitions and visas. The OIG also interviewed 71 managers and staff in DHS and the Department of State. The OIG opines that although USCIS regulations and headquarters memorandums provide guidance regarding the definition of specialized knowledge, they are insufficient to ensure consistent application of L-1 visa program requirements in processing visas and petitions and more communication between DHS and the Department of State would improve the processing of blanket petitions.

PETITION:
www.oig.dhs.gov/.../OIG_13-107_Aug13.pdf


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United States uscitizen
August 29. 2013 20:19
uscitizen

@Perplexed,

Not really. These would be the outcomes IMHO,

1. A lot of US companies will leave the US and setup base somewhere else EU, Canada, South America,...They will have a lot of their employees telecommuting. Some big companies like Dell and RedHat already do that.

2. You will see IT consulting shops like Infosys and Tata setting up more offices in South america (Same timezone as Texas and the west coast). And oh yeah, Tata already has a big presence in some of those countries.

www.tcs.com/.../default.aspx

The H1s will get paid less, but probably even out because the cost of living there is much lesser than the US and they dont need to pay taxes to uncle sam at the end of the year.

The practical approach without longing for any such change is to be ahead of the game in terms of skills. Be the best, network, be nice and be somebody who your former bosses would consider bringing back. Stop working for these bigger companies and focus on startups, that way you stay current always.

-Uscitizen


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United States Boss
August 30. 2013 00:09
Boss

Whoever is supporting H1B and other guest worker visas. Please visit.

http://indiots.zymichost.com/


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Kuwait Anonymous
August 30. 2013 03:57
Anonymous

@Boss,

Thanks for the link above.  Written by an honest Hindu & quite true.


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Kuwait Anonymous
August 30. 2013 04:08
Anonymous

Contemporary India is the worst owing to the congress dynasty & their allies.
Plus a lot more reasons already written by me. ONLY effective solution is one STRONG ATTACK by China.

Once the corrupt debauched are eliminated India would be a nice place to settle down. The Spiritual Capital of India is such that many Westerners are attracted to Indian SEERS & Holy Places till date. China also can be HINDUS' friend provided the huge corrupt congress dynasty & their supporters , the muslim votebank appeasers are all EXTERMINATED. Including Indian debauched film fraternity. Who keep gallivanting around to America, Canada , Middle East recycling the same crap. Indian film industry & cricket mania are two BIG horrors. Absolutely nothing spiritually edifying about them. Much of black money is stashed there.  


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Kuwait Anonymous
August 30. 2013 04:28
Anonymous

Many Westerners are not aware of the fact that India though ostensibly having many Hindus is in reality a dhimmi country. Very anti American & pro muslim.

Right from Jawaharlal Nehru who was but a MUSLIM including Indira who had two muslim husbands India will go to any lengths to betray ISRAEL & AMERICA. Indian establishment has no SCRUPLES AT ALL. To stay in power would stoop to any levels.
Richard Nixon & Henry Kissinger have been very charitable & mild with words while assessing India.

Today owing to Obama & many leftists America is also being terrorized by them.
Had Republicans won America would have emerged very strong.

China though friendly with Pakistan investing in their infrastructure never puts up with jihadism. There is no human rights industry thriving in China defending the terrorists. Whereas India is THE HAVEN for muslim terrorists. And rapists.
In India if the religion of the criminal is Islam he/she gets acquitted , pardoned , conferred ministership. Just as Ahmed Karzai of Afghanistan is one PERENNIAL beggar intimidating America for aid & assistance , Indian muslims WITHIN India manipulate & extort proving detrimental to few good HINDUS.

China alone can put an end to this. Our population problem , noise pollution . financial problems , water scarcity , cooking gas cylinders shortages -ALL will come to an end. The Indian ministers get everythong FREE free ckking gas , FREE petrol , FREE foreign jaunts, FREE electricity , FREE medical care , FREE opulent apartments , FREE jaunts to Davos etc etc. Never die in bomb blasts.
They have a cosy nexus with muslim terrorists & maoists etc.

But keep misleading us the HINDUS (sic) "... it is AmericaAAA that is behind our decline of rupee value..."  


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Kuwait Anonymous
August 30. 2013 04:30
Anonymous

FREE cooking gas. Sorry for the typo.


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United States James
August 30. 2013 10:17
James

@uscitizen

Oh, I failed to mention I also know C/C++/Pascal/FORTRAN/HTML/JavaScript/PHP.

Hope those are current too.

I've been programming for 30 years and have always kept my skills up to date. That's never been a problem.

What has become a problem is the invading armies of anti-white racists such as yourself who are deliberately keeping me out of jobs in my own country due to some historical hangups you have with white people.


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United States James
August 30. 2013 10:19
James

@uscitizen

I wrote most of this product - in C++, which I have been using for almost 20 years now.

www.thefreelibrary.com/...+MacAddict...-a054230793

5 out of 5 mice and called "Freakin' Awesome" by the mag reviewer.

I think I can handle anything any company can throw at me.


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United States James
August 30. 2013 10:20
James

@uscitizen

">I have top iOS and Objective-C skills uscitizen, which is as current as you can het yet I am still unemployed.

Thought you were happily employed and making big $$ LOL"

I am. It's called the App Store. You have heard of it, haven't you?


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United States James
August 30. 2013 10:25
James

@Perplexed

"Well, I don't know if the "Indian Drag" on our economy is the source of ALL of our problems. I can tell you that if tomorrow every one of the Indian H1-B's was deported then a million jobs paying $60 dollars an hour would be available.
A million jobs... Can you imagine the impact of this? Not only would a million good paying jobs suddenly appear, but the psychological boost to the country at this good news would be massive. A million new jobs, houses bought, Home Depot trips, taxes paid, well you get the drift.
Screw Microsoft and all the other damn corporations who behave as Privateers..
Enough"

And that is precisely what the Wall St. bankers don't want. If a million Americans all make $160K and pay cash for cars and houses like in the 90s the banks aren't going to be making too many loans, are they?

Prosperity threatens banker profits.

The corporations are controlled by the banks. The banks are controlled by Wall St. Wall St. controls the gov't.

Do you see now why everyone is attacking us?

American tech workers create economic booms that threaten banker profits. This happened with the auto and electronics industries too. That's why ALL of it gets shipped offshore eventually. It's not just about low costs - it's about deliberately keeping the US economy DOWN.

The media is also controlled by the corporations. Hence their need to constantly attack us and say we're too dumb. That's why all this is happening. At all costs the powers that be must keep us out of high paying jobs.

And Wall St. is jealous of Silicon Valley and the web.


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United States James
August 30. 2013 10:32
James

@uscitizen

"1. A lot of US companies will leave the US and setup base somewhere else EU, Canada, South America,...They will have a lot of their employees telecommuting. Some big companies like Dell and RedHat already do that."

Don't you think if it was that easy they would have done so already? Fact is, offshoring is expensive and fraught with problems like time difference and communication. EU and Canada are both highly, highly regulated.

Dell is dying BTW.

"2. You will see IT consulting shops like Infosys and Tata setting up more offices in South america (Same timezone as Texas and the west coast). And oh yeah, Tata already has a big presence in some of those countries."

No they won't. I have friends in many S. American countries including Brazil and Brazil won't even let you in. They aren't dummies, you know. Just at how desperate Premji is - having to beg O to do something about the lack of visa increases. If there were other big markets, he would have just gone there already. Fact is, US is big and it's the target you people need to siphon in order to stay in biz. You're not going anywhere.

"Startups" have become a racket people like you use to siphon US VC via remittances. There won't be unlimited $ for you to rob forever.

www.tcs.com/.../default.aspx

The H1s will get paid less, but probably even out because the cost of living there is much lesser than the US and they dont need to pay taxes to uncle sam at the end of the year.

The practical approach without longing for any such change is to be ahead of the game in terms of skills. Be the best, network, be nice and be somebody who your former bosses would consider bringing back. Stop working for these bigger companies and focus on startups, that way you stay current always.
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United States Perplexed
August 30. 2013 12:06
Perplexed

"
The practical approach without longing for any such change is to be ahead of the game in terms of skills. Be the best, network, be nice and be somebody who your former bosses would consider bringing back. Stop working for these bigger companies and focus on startups, that way you stay current always."

I don't have a problem competing with Indian H1-B's. There is not much to compete against frankly.
The problem for me is that STEM careers are being choked off in the U.S. due to the unfair and unneeded influx of I.T. scabs, namely H1-B's.
Kids out of college need the first job. It doesn't have to be much but something. Maintenance, data loads, testing what have you.
Remove that and you will kill the industry within the U.S. guaranteeing that in the future more H1-B workers will be needed.
Industry needs to work with Technological colleges to insure that they get the graduates that are trained sufficiently.
As a final note, I don't like the way the Indian I.T. lobby so brazenly declares that the Indian mind is superior, that American workers are sub-standard.
What a crock. Having lived in that wretched country for a few years I know the truth of the place. Corrupt and nasty. That is their main import. They have corrupted the brilliance that the U.S. has produced.
Don't forget WE created computers, WE created operating systems, WE created databases, WE created OO technologies, WE created the consumer software industry, WE created programming languages.
As so many have said before me, what has India created?


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United States Perplexed
August 30. 2013 18:18
Perplexed

"The practical approach without longing for any such change is to be ahead of the game in terms of skills. Be the best, network, be nice and be somebody who your former bosses would consider bringing back. Stop working for these bigger companies and focus on startups, that way you stay current always."

What a crock by the way. Tell that to the white college kid who can't even get an interview. Or if he does he has to face an Indian hiring manager and interviewer.

Indians will favor Indians always. It's the way they do business. Only if you have heavy hitting experience can you sideswipe them. Management uses these heavy hitters to architect and design major systems.

If the H1-B's were allowed to do anything serious all hell would break loose.

So better to get rid of the H1-B program and train Americans to do the job. You see, we don't need you. We've done just fine on our own. You are free to create and develop any industry you want. Not that any come to mind actually.

India does not create, it consumes. Any goods produced in India (besides Alfonso Mangos and Basmati Rice) stay in India. Now India is in a tailspin because the rupee is in freefall. Nothing to export since coal mining etc. for export has been stopped due to corruption.

And yes my friend everything in India is corruption. Everyone is on the take scheming to cheat and lie to get ahead. Call me a racist but I LIVED THERE and I experienced it. The Himalayan areas are great, the rest of India can sink into the ocean it's such a sewer pit.


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United States Boss
August 30. 2013 23:31
Boss

To all American IT professionals

I thought H1Bs are Just in private sector, but it is NOT. I have once worked for State Of NY project and I was surprised to see 90% of contractors were H1Bs!(through third party consulting company) They celebrate Indian festivals Diwali etc.. in Office!! During lunch time the entire office used to smell like an Indian Restaurant!! There were also 2 groups over there. Telugu group and Tamil group! Finally I left the contract since I was not comfortable with this homogeneous population!

As I mentioned in my earlier post, by posting comments or arguing with Indian guest workers we are not going to change anything. It is a bitter reality that our High Tech industry is hacked (Top level to bottom level) by people from INDIA! We have to design some plans to takeover our industry back. As I mentioned forming a Labor Union, Having Some peaceful protest to make public awareness etc.. may be some preliminary steps towards that goal..


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Kuwait Anonymous
August 30. 2013 23:40
Anonymous

Techinsurget ,

Please help me. I ahve written everything about my life in detail. But nobody CARES.

This faux husband called S.N.Ramachandran ( 965-97201449) working as CFO in Fouad Alghanim is one nauseating TERRORIST far more lethal than the husband in Alfred Hitchcock's Dial M for murder & the husband in its remake ( Michael Douglas)coalesced.I tried my best complaining to lots of colleagues working in this Kuwaiti company.STILL he has not been PUNISHED. He DESERVES nothing short of death sentence. That includes my brothers , sisters , those cousins who wantonly orchestrated my RAPE & TORTURE but conveniently branded me a bipolar by purchasing several psychiatrists.

This S.N.Ramachandran told me his Kuwaiti boss Mohammed Alghanim has offered him "full support as he as CFO generates lots of profits for their company". And that he is "not bothered about his personal life & my torture".

That is the reason I have been entreating you to burn him to death so that I can live in peace with my son who is also being blackmailed by him. He is my son's biological father. YET , always intimidates his money dinars & rupees etc would be DENIED to my son & me.

Forget GODDAMNED India.

This S.N.Ramachandran even had the audacity to tell me " Americans called me over the phone assuring me of full support as they read your comments".

I do not believe in it. But how come he is still ALIVE? Several times he has poisoned me with a cocktail of toxic stuff. Lawyers can be BOUGHT. I do not speak Arabic.

Please HELP me.


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United States db
August 31. 2013 01:52
db

Thanks for keeping the comments open. I've been following this website for such a long time. Many US IT workers are now officially dislocated workers due to outsourcing, layoffs, foreign competition (both inbound and outbound) resulting in a subsequent lack of demand for US IT workers in general. The funny thing is these douches in congress act like there is nothing they can do, because they are sucking the cock of Indian IT and loving it. What a fucking joke America.


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Kuwait Anonymous
August 31. 2013 03:31
Anonymous

James says nothing but the TRUTH.

He is absolutely RIGHT diagnosing "historical hangups" of Indians warping our clear thinking & judgement. No wonder we Indians are forever petulant carping as though James, Drifter, Techinsurgents etc OWE us useless good for nothing indians jobs , food , water , oil & security also.

I see with my OWN eyes how well mannered , polite , HONEST & hassle free WESTERNERS are. Whereas us Indians REFUSE to LEARN good manners. Too noisy & uncouth. I have seen how  odd & irksome are the accents of various Indians, Bangladeshis , Pakistanis etc who have wrested many jobs owing to leftists clout.
As an Indian middle aged housewife I find their airhostesses ( American & European) & various other people  are so much BETTER , SUPERIOR & EFFICIENT.
Their children are so well behaved & ripen at a natural pace. Are not  spelling contests trophies collecting precocious brats.

Before being exposed to them while growing up in India I was bludgeoned on my head we ALONE are the best in everything including education, cooking, bringing up children blah blah. I was bowled over to see two very young daughters of good looking European parents well dressed & so well behaved. Eating their food with a tiny forks without spilling. And the parents were TALKING to their children , listening & answering them politely.

About us Indians....SIGH we have a lot to learn from them. We don't; we imitate them without any INNER transformation & growth but fulminate at them with envy & churlishness needlessly bringing in "historical hangups" as aptly pointed out by James. Some Indians have integrated I agree. But why are we always sulking when the fault is with us electing same CROOKS. We have a glorious past to ruminate over but we are NOT great as Swami Vivekanandas & Ramana Bhagavan.

We ourselves have NO love towards our own fellow Indians. How do we expect Americans & Germans to tolerate us leave alone like us ?  Indian media, bloggers always keeps crying wolf " America is doing all things possible to derail our capture of superpowerdom". This no longer provides comic relief for me.


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Kuwait Anonymous
August 31. 2013 03:51
Anonymous

In all his observations on Indians including Indian film stars James is forthrightly coming out with facts that are unpalatable to us Indians. We know he is right YET react with anger.

The Commonwealth games was such a fiasco. When Australia & Britain pointed it out Indians became ballistic.Indians always call Australia "racist" as though that is an adequate explanation. Whereas how well UK had planned their Olympics.
Like fellow Indians with lot of pent up anger towards UK (historical hangups)I exerted myself to find fault with UK. But my HEART knows we Indians are good for nothing.



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Kuwait Anonymous
August 31. 2013 06:01
Anonymous

One of my brothers called Mohan ( calls himself J.Mohan and / or Mohan Janakiraman depending on position of Planets in his GODDAMNED horoscope) & his wife Vasudharini are Canadian citizens. Own lots of properties in Canada , Bangalore, Kolkata & Tamil Nadu are indescribably RICH. With a son called Shiva & a daughter called Madhavi -all characterless people.

I had given you more details about them earlier. He connived with A.Chandrashekar & A.Chandramouli behind the scenes asking them to RAPE & TORTURE me for a protracted period of time blackmailing me thus. But all of them DENY & have now produced even grandchildren I suppose.

This Mohan FORCED me to work in Indian banks , to do cooking , washing etc etc ALSO at home & took my entire salary along with my mother. Forcing down psychiatry drugs in addition. My FAUX marriage with this THUG FORGERER S.N.Ramachandran cfo in Kuwait ( 965-97201449) was arranged by this Mohan. Which took place on 31 March 1982 in Calcutta. When I was perioding. According to VEDIC RITES also marriage OUGHT NOT to be conducted thus. All of them purposely suppressed the truth & finished this marriage eating lots of sweets & huge quantities of food - all expenses borne from my late father S.Janakiraman's savings & life insurance money.

I was DENIED even my morning cup of coffee by my husband & in laws despite my handing over my entire salary to them.

Mohan my so called brother ( alleged brahmin sanctimonious VEGETARIAN, with ravenous GLUTTONY for porn movies) told me:-

" Why cry about coffee denied ....you must let Ramachandran access your G Spot first. Then your marriage will be a success ".

By then he was pursuing Chartered Accountancy. Now a cfo in Detroit. In Dubai was CFO in AL-Futaim company. In Kuwait was CFO in one Basam Alghanim company.
owns a duplex apartment in London Ontario now. Both Mohan & his equally GLUTTONOUS porn movie devouring wife Vasudharini pay many visits to Thirupathi Temple....claim they donate to many charities blah blah.

And they "HATE Chinese for NOT being vegetarians".

Here in Kuwait also while shoving down LITHIUMS & TEGRETOLS , haloperidol down my throat Mohan & Vasudharini asked the same indecent question:-

" Have you let Ramu ( Ramachandran) access your G spot as he is telling you are not sexually inclined towards him....".

Remember he is NOT my husband. This was FAUX marriage. His passport birth details are FORGED. YET this KUWAITI company is mollycoddling him. Indian gorement I know would confer ministership on him.

That is the reason I request you AMERICA & SRI.DAWOOD IBRAHIM to PULVERIZE away this terrorist faux husband & all my diabolical relatives.

Please KILL them ALL. Confiscate their property as reward.  


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United States NoH1
August 31. 2013 11:43
NoH1

Oh BTW who is more racist, Indians or Americans? Every company that I worked for that was infested by slumdogs and run by Indian manager, I never was promoted ever and the scab Indians always circle jerk each other off and promote each other in spite of their incompetence.


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United States Tipster
September 1. 2013 01:15
Tipster

A quick test of discriminatory hiring practices is to send a bunch of resumes with more or less the same qualifications to an Indian company. Send some with Indian names and send some with non-Indian names. Check which resumes get a call back.


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United States John Belango
September 1. 2013 01:45
John Belango

One of my brothers is a Graphics Artist. He does Annual Reports and such. For a long time he used Quark Express for the Mac.
Development got offshored to India. Then the next big release hit the racks and he upgraded for the hefty price of 600 bucks.
He did an Annual Report for a local bank with it. Only problem he couldn't get the Postscript output to actually work. It wouldn't print.
He spent a month on the phone with customer support (in India of course) after he gave up and went to another program. He was royally pissed about it. He never got a refund.
After that Quark was done. It's long gone but a good reminder of the quality of Indian Programming. Pretzel logic will do that to a product.


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Kuwait Anonymous
September 1. 2013 04:00
Anonymous

Do NOT fall for the sob stories of Indians their alleged poverty blah blah.
Should you find them poor & pathetic blame it on their KARMA / just desserts served by our Maker. DO NOT DONATE.

They splurge on Diwali celebrations obscenely EATING & EATING. Claim by such eating impressing the Lord. Even crackers bursting during Diwali was introduced by Moghal ruler Babur. Actually none of these celebrations on such ostentatious wasteful levels are ever allowed.

Most of the Indian wives settled in America & Canada blog tirelessly on food cooked capturing them on digital cameras & rest of the Indian IDIOTS coo asininely " ssooooooooo good....wanna take a bite gonna make it...my hubby my shubby chubby..." Read the comments to know you have colossal CRETINS & IMBECILES in your country. All Indians. They pick up such smattering from America "wanna gonna go figure....dude cool dudette...".

Very recently I saw with my eyes how such an Indian accent ACTUALLY caused quite a lot of trouble for a Canadian senior citizen. She asked him if he wanted his bagels toasted like " you vaan it TOESTAYYYEDDDD". He had to ask her to repeat & she repeated the same TOESTAYYYYDDDDD with a very condescending indulgent air as though it was HE who was having trouble understanding her great Richard Burton English accent!!

I have seen many such instances. See for yourself how you have singed yourself badly for desiring to uplift all the third world allegedly dispossessed oh so hummmmblesimmmmple indians , bangladeshees , pakistanis , afghanis....

One Afghani USELESS girl says she is employed in a bank in Canada travelling every two months to be with her husband in DUBAI. And that she is going to sponsor him soon to Canada. I read in Reader's Digest GRUESOME accounts of Afghanis , pakistanis taleban etc deceptively meek & impoverished looking SUDDENLY lunging forward with cleavers & breaking the SKULL of Americans , Canadians , Australians Army Personnel. Blowing up their limbs & brains as rewards for all your reconstruction & rehabilitation work there.

From the beginning I have been noticing whenever Americans die BBC reports (sic)
" American soldiers are trigger happy thus agitating innocent poor afghanis taleban etc".

Indians GLOAT & PURR asserting ALL Armymen & women are christian missionaries in Army fatigues & write in favour of taleban militants. Their anger towards indigenous converted indian christian CRIMINALS get deflected & poured on you Americans.

Remember the famous "clash of civilizations" ? Indians lack GRACE &  CLASS.
When attacked by muslims in the "cross border attacks " blame it on "AmericAAAAA selling weapons to ohsogoodmeek afghani kabuliwalas of Rabindranath Tagore instigating them to attack india as india is just a few steps away from reaching superpowerstatus..superpowerdom. Now Indians are all SCREAMING in shrillest decibels how NASA had to seek the help of indiAn scientists to know the presence of water in MOONSmile). Many jingoistic indians are alerting indian great scientists not to share water pictures as America will do something cunning in that picture of water thus denying SOOOPERPOWERSTATUS to indiaaa.

Now you will AGREE with me why I maintain consistently Sri.Dawood Ibrahim ALONE is SANE. One SANE Indian from Bombay who WISELY QUIT sooperpower india.


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Kuwait Anonymous
September 1. 2013 04:12
Anonymous

George Bush was SPOT ON when he casually mentioned Indians aaalways FREQUENTLY sumptuous eating. They eat when hungry eat when NOT hungry eat to enjaaai (enjoy) eat just like that " God has given us so much to EAT" they cry & EAT. But talk how AmericAAAA is behind rupee's downfall. There is NO downfall at all.

I see on tv all kollywood actresses , playback singers , all uncouth indians forever COOKING hosting cookery contests , vegetable carving...Indians are presenting Mexican cooking authoritatively...Cookery channels are too many.
Beauty treatments with expensive pistachios almonds also by the poooorest indians all over indian channels. Such spas get inaugurated by kollybolly suhasini manirathnams tambrams.

There is absolutely NO financial crunch. All LIES by indian CHEATS.
Ask North Korea to join CHINA & MASSACRE good for nothing indians.


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Kuwait Anonymous
September 1. 2013 04:36
Anonymous

S.N.Ramachandran (965-97201449) Kuwaiti company given blackberry my FAUX husband after watching Schindler's List in Kuwait came to India where I was with my child
(8C Wedderburn Road Kolkata) whipped out a FREE comb that he STOLE from betel leaves given by sanctimonious indian women to transfer their SINS to ME ( along with betel leaves a tiny comb is also given) combing his bald head filled hair & ordered :-

" There is one scene in that movie where a woman sits on top of of a man & do sex..ever since I saw I have been planning for a long time to ask you to do THAT to me....".

He spoke the above words in the presence of my sister Mira (Meera) dietitian in Debishetty hospital in Kolkata living now in an apartment in Jadavpur that was substantially FINANCED by my late brother JPrakash who could not live even for a single day in that house as he was KILLED successfully by the same brothers & sisters with a heady cocktail of LITHIUMS TEGRETOLS HALOPERIDOL PROZAC mellaril sodium valproate prescribed by Dr.Sabyasachi Nandi a psychiatrist with huge apartments , cars etc etc etc etc. All my stuff (DOWRY) is in that apartment whwre I am DENIED entry. But this faux husband is allowed entry. He takes piping hot Dominoes PIZZAS EXTRA  LARGE for Meera & Bhanumathi Das Sharma another sister a DEVIL who is art of living senior teacher of Sri Sri Sri Ravishankar the EVIL cult founder BRILLIANTLY unmasked by an AMERICAN GENIUS single handedly.


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United States NoH1
September 1. 2013 11:33
NoH1

Oh I know that these no good maderchod cockroaches are crybabies and full of shit. They drive expensive cars and live in expensive homes at the expense of workforce genocide against American STEM workers! They are all swine and I wish Pakistan and China would nuke India to oblivion but that would never happen because the US Congress is owned by the corrupt Indian junta.


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United States uscitizen
September 2. 2013 23:26
uscitizen

@noh1b,

You are full of shit. Go say that to the maderchod cockroach and crybaby great italian/irish grandad(s) of yours. This is a land of corporations. This country is owned by Wall st and corporations. Now go F yourself.

-Uscitizen


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United States uscitizen
September 2. 2013 23:31
uscitizen

@james,

>The corporations are controlled by the banks. The banks are controlled by Wall St. Wall St. controls the gov't.

I never thought I would say this to you, but I whole heartedly agree to what you said above. Its 100% true and there is nothing you can do about it.

-Uscitizen


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United States Robert Hoffman
September 3. 2013 01:45
Robert Hoffman

Do the Indian posters pretending to be Americans really think we can't tell that you are Indians? Your written English "itself" is as bad as your spoken English "and such".


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Kuwait Anonymous
September 3. 2013 07:08
Anonymous

I have been WARNING you right from the beginning Indians have no GRATITUDE , no ETHICS & are mostly highly treacherous. As a nation AMERICA made the right move by choosing Pakistan as a better ally than treacherous india.

I told you India uses ISRAEL & AMERICA but would never hesitate in backstabbing.
Despite being warned EXPLICITLY Indian congress party along with its communists & various THUGS infested allies have backstabbed AMERICA. They have been purchasing oil / gas from IRAN financing it through UCO bank in Kolkata ( Calcutta).

REMEMBER I wrote in detail how this UCO bank Calcutta EXPLOITED me & denied me my full Provident Fund. Obviously I cannot convey my torture & exploitation every DAY in that UCO bank I worked for ten years.

Congress party says it benefits financially thus ( some billions zillions I don't know). But to America would tell "sovereignty....poor people need gas electricity blah blah".

Cruel irony being , the people who KNOW how very rotten & CORRUPT the members of parliament particularly this congress party with its dynasty propped up by KGB etc since 1947 are supporting this move.Indians though benefitting in no small way by becoming citizens of America are incorrigibly DISLOYAL to AMERICA & ISRAEL. Would always cite "historical ties with persian empire ..sugar dissolved in milk". They are calculating by such moves can deplete AMERICAN financial strength further becoming that "sooooperpower" they dream of.

What prevents AMERICA from launching nuclear strikes on Uco bank & most indians worldwide & state bank of mysore also I told you situated in Bentinck St (Lakshmi Enterprises etc etc refer). By KILLING most of these treacherous TERRORISTS called indians ( my HINDU relatives & several hindus included) alone
America & ISRAEL can ensure their safety. Indians as a whole have always been pro PLO and anti ISRAEL.


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United States Boss
September 3. 2013 07:37
Boss

@Uscitizen
--The corporations are controlled by the banks. The banks are controlled by Wall St. Wall St. controls the gov't.
>>I never thought I would say this to you, but I whole heartedly agree to what you said above. Its 100% true and there is nothing you can do about it.

So you agree to the fact that Corporations control the labor market with their influence, which means you indirectly agree that corporations import 'cheap labor' from India using their influence in US congress (like corporate welfare programs like H1 and L1). So you are also agreeing to the fact that 'most of the Indians' here are NOT because they are 'Best and brightest' but due to 'Cheapness in wages'. That's all we Americans are saying. We, the middle class suffer due to the control of labor market by corporations and politicians. That's why I said in my earlier post that it is actually MIDDLE CLASS vs ELITE CLASS. not INDIANS vs AMERICANS..

Now, the question, if Middle Class can do something to change the situation? So far middle class have had high tolerance and they have not reacted to this. But this does not mean that corporations can take us for granted.Historically when things go beyond once tolerance people react. I am sure the same thing will happen here. It is just a matter of time when some frustrated American IT worker  go nuts and beats some H1B badly. This will send a clear message that Americans are no more tolerant. (In Australia and UK it is already happening)
Also we should form Labor unions etc.. which will make sure that Americans are employed and Labor market is not 100% controlled by Corporations.


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United States NoH1
September 3. 2013 10:47
NoH1

@uscitizen, go fuck off you piece of shit.

India scum is in bed with corrupt US government and greedy CEOs and bankers. A bed of vipers.


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United States NoH1
September 3. 2013 22:38
NoH1

@uscitizen,

You sir are a liar and not a US citizen but a H1b sucker. Jump off a bridge and do the world a favor.


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United States uscitizen
September 4. 2013 09:23
uscitizen

@Boss,

>So you agree to the fact that Corporations control the labor market with their influence,
Absolutely.

>which means you indirectly agree that corporations import 'cheap labor' from India using their influence in US congress (like corporate welfare >programs like H1 and L1).

Corporations will do anything they can to cut cost.
They cut costs for obvious reasons including loyalty to stock holders and to maximize profits while lowering down cost (e.g walmart).
There are many ways they do this. Bringing in people on H1 used to be big in the late 90s, but there are much cheaper alternatives available now.

>So you are also agreeing to the fact that 'most of the Indians' here are NOT >because they are 'Best and brightest' but due to 'Cheapness in wages'.

I dont know about Indians, but yes most of the people I have seen on visas are somewhere between average to bright. And, there are some people who are brilliant. But unlike a citizen, the visa people get shipped back in a few months if they are not good enough. A citizen programmer on the other hand can afford to sit back, relax and get fired and collect unemployment insurance.

Ofcourse the h1 guy pays SS and medicare tax, but they dont get to collect it as there is no gaurentee that they will have a job tomorrow. Also H1s cannot collect unemployment if they get laid off. You see, we are pervilaged and protected and yet we complain =)

>That's all we Americans are saying. We, the middle class suffer due to the >control of labor market by corporations and politicians. That's why I
>said in my earlier post that it is actually MIDDLE CLASS vs ELITE CLASS. not >INDIANS vs AMERICANS..

Do you want to take control of the situation instead of simply whining ?
Start writing good code. Involve in a community project that competes with a commercial product, create a company and advertise your services for support. There are plenty of such projects around that are desperately in need for people with patience. Remember Microsoft of the 90s ? These guys were powerful, had all the money in the world and yet look at them now. Bunch of geeks diligently kept improving the Linux kernel and now Linux is king.

Good luck,
-Uscitizen


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United States uscitizen
September 4. 2013 09:46
uscitizen

@Noh1,

You are a piece of turd that I flushed down the crapper just now.



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Kuwait Anonymous
September 4. 2013 20:39
Anonymous

This congress GOREMENT ought not to forget their own N.D.Tiwari is far far ahead in the queue. For sexual orgies & RAPE.

West Bengal notorious for communism , egalitarianism anti VEDIC was where I grew up. Born in Trichy & stayed as a new born in Trichy for barely a fortnight.

Soon after my father S.Janakiramsn's death (murder) on 02/Jan/1978 I went through HELL. When I entered BSRB (Banking Services Recruitment Board)as a clerical employee of Uco bank (head office Calcutta Brabourne Road whose chairman one Matrubutham was arrested soon after I resigned & quit for Nagpur. But was NOT cut up into pieces / castrated/ stoned to death/ declared CORRUPT & excommunicated. The UNTOUCHABLES among HINDUS get "arrested" but acquitted for lack of evidence.

Brimming with socialistic pretensions & anti AMERICA , MILITANt MURDEROUS trade unionism the so called peons , tea boys , bathroom cleaning jamedars ( I did not appoint any jamedar btw) , ALL sit in front of officers , assistant managers , branch managers , women etc often OCCUPYING their designated seats. Most of them SELDOM worked. Played carrom taking off their shirts & vests bare chested throwing overt explicit sexual innuendos at me. Luckily my familiarity with bengali language was very nugatory. I spoke GOOD English which made them target me. I being a BRAHMIN complicated matters further. The bengali women employees Mrs.Anuradha Dasgupta ( typical bengali culture vulture who expected ALL to memorise Rabindrasangeet AND nazrulgeeth ) Champa Chatterjee ( allegedly from Lady Brabourne)  who later joined doordarshan
One Abhijit Guhathakurta an inseparable PAL of married Anuradha Dasgupta ( same culture vulture) who always said he was soon going to become managing Director of ASEAN Manila thumbing through books on complicated architecture rattling ohrases like rococco , Rodin & so on merrily WATCHED all the humiliation I was put through including FORCING me to buy them BISCUITS & TEA DAILY. I was a temporary clerk for six months first. They said my becoming a permanent staff (only then entitled to PF , dearness allowance etc) depended on obliging them without refusing.

There was one LECHEROUS BRAT called Tomal (thomal) a Class IV employee who was also with them eating the same biscuits & tea EXTORTED from me , taking bath stark NAKED in the bathroom facing my chair & making obscene thrusting gestures from the bathroom. It was all allowed by those people in the bank as "YAARKI  (just like that , FUN ). He sat before me & went on & on how as a JUVENILE he lured another girl who was studying in some convent Diocesan & "RAPED her repeatedly daily". He used the word "intercourse" instead of RAPE.

That Tomal hindu bengali is ALSO AHEAD in the QUEUE.

India should follow the queue system.

Instead of baying for some alleged MUSLIM rapists.

Already I have given a list of MOSTLY HINDU acquantances & relatives of mine all RAPISTS, And LOTS of hindu women & converted christians men & women have remained INDIFFERENT CONDONING CONNIVING ORCHESTRATING such CRIMES & MISDEMEANOURS.

Give exemplary punishment to them ALL first.


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Kuwait Anonymous
September 4. 2013 21:26
Anonymous

Allahabad bank a nationalised bank head office in Calcutta had suddenly "arrested" an OFFICER called Ramamani for sanctioning "loans" that could not be recovered.

I was very SHOCKED. As that Ramamani was my English teacher in Class VIII for a short period. She was never made a permanent Employee by national high school (both boys & girls schools) just because she lacked one B.Ed.degree. BUT she was an EXCELLENT TEACHER. I say this with CONVICTION as her methods of teaching were unconventional not the usual boring routine followed by the B.Ed ones. She acted out the story "Three Meals Shorten A Day" so well teaching the meanings of new words used so much so here in Kuwait I purposely bought a block of CHEESE called EDAM CHEESE as it is that Edam Cheese that Hans H eats in that short story.

She was shunted between boys' & girls school & the meagre pay given was
tantamount to a humiliating SLAP. Among boys also she was liked very much.In addition to being a GOOD Teacher she was strikingly good looking tall & well groomed. The boys purposely made a lot of mistakes in spelling etc as they wanted to be summoned & corrected just to be in her close proximity. One of her brother was a rowing champion also.

She had lost her father at a very young age, She being the first born  thus struggled in making both ends meet without getting married & abandoning her mother & brothers.

Later joined Allahabad bank. Occasionally  I would see her in the minibus queue near Dakshinee bookshop ( it is no longer there).

Soon after her "arrest" I remember she told forthrightly:-

" As Officers we have no autonomy at all while sanctioning loans. Refusing any loan is considered bad. We ask our seniors & they sanction asking us to give the loans. Just because my signature is there I have been made a scapegoat".

That chairman was also another tambram who with his wife would come for some satsangs pravachans.

Before joining any bank I asked for a job in the same national high school for girls ( MR.Lalitha Puttaparthi Baba follower). I was interviewed by some stern looking men who said they would offer four hundred rupees ( Rs.400/-) as maximum salary with no increment no benefits on "humanitarian grounds" as I had no B.Ed & experience. What they expected me to teach was heavily harrowing & demanding schedule.
I was asked by them to sign a contract that I would not leave in search of a better job till I was retired or kicked the bucket.

Since the same GODDAMNED school had dinned into me "Honesty Is The Best Policy" I refused signing telling them very POLITELY " I am trying to get into a nationalised bank by taking recruitment exams ( Banking Services Recruitment) & will quit if I get a call as this 400 is inadequate".

At once one of the tambrams (all were crotchety senior citizens VEGETARIANS men) " VaaWTT...you vill quit...GET OUT of the room...no job..don't come back".

When I told MR.Lalitha what had transpired at the "interview" she approved of what they did blaming me as "greedy looking for better pay". She is also a VEGETARIAN with BIG RED (sometimes magenta) DOT.

She spat out wiping her nose with her ENTIRE palm:-

" Out of pity towards you rendered FATHERLESS suddenly I arranged for this interview ...& this is what you say....GET OUT".

This "GET OUT" charade took place in her bungalow in Raja Basantha Roy Rd.

Incidentally many tambrams are fond of spitting out " GET OUT" "Shut UP".
Thus from a young age I developed IMMUNITY towards this "GET OUT" & "SHUT UP".


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United States NoH1
September 5. 2013 00:04
NoH1

@uscitizen, piss off loser


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Kuwait Anonymous
September 5. 2013 01:26
Anonymous

Indians by & large FAIL to elicit any sympathy from me as they never admit what they have done are PUNISHABLE CRIMES. They invariably look for excuses like "poverty". So &  so was poor ....hence forged cheques , documents , certificates,  KILLED ...so & so was provocatively dressed thus asking to be raped......"

With this dangerous mindset entrenched for decades Indians deserve very RUTHLESS punishment on a large scale. Such a mindset is further nurtured by CRAPPY Indian movies which are but tearjerkers.

Lots of Indians in Gulf countries forge cheques after winning their Arab Employers' trust & then run away to India. Often I have come across many such cases being reported in local newspapers shown as "absconding". In Dubai also I remember many after taking loans for purchasing swanky cars suddenly abandoned the cars at airports before quitting Dubai for India.Dubai could not recover those loans given & had to write them off.

Now one such Indian has been arrested in Sharjah.He has forged a cheque & so arrested. Indian newspaper has published photo of his wife in India (Tamil Nadu) with THREE children & writes "they are all suffering". One of the children's schooling expenses have been borne by the school itself for more than an year.
Now the neighbours are providing them food.

The comments are SHOCKING. Not a single person finds anything wrong with his forgery. Instead are carping " ..had be been a keralite by now Indian Embassy & Kerala Lobby would have procured his acquittal ( which unfortunately is VERY TRUE)...what for is this Indian Embassy if not to HELP all such Indians arrested (!!!)... poor thing his wife looks so anxious....

Nobody asks why produce three children if THAT poor...

For decades this is EXACTLY how Indian politicians have thrived on poverty.
They ALLOW poor to produce children irresponsibly. Give bogus citizenship ration cards to infiltrators from Bangladesh. Who cast their votes to congress party & leftists. All these are ANTI-HINDU THUGS calling thmselves "rationalists" "secular".

So have been PLUNDERING money from HINDU TEMPLES' collections. Too many poor people filling up schools need food. FREE food. So FREE meals are served in schools.Lot of us fall sick , have fallen sick in India as everything is polluted , contaminated , adulterated.

BUT accounts of "poor school children" falling ILL in FREE schools after eating FREE meals becomes sensational news. The word "poor" galvanizes the communists of India. At once they scream " why these Hindus are anointing Hindu God(s) performing Pujas when so many "POOR" are suffering...if there is a GOD will he let POOR people suffer.....if there is a GOD will he create poverty...there is no Hindu God...let us break/loot the Hindus' TEMPLES by usurping their very management". This is how they invaded our TEMPLES. Issuing tickets for money & collecting.That gets ROBBED by them.

The ill informed ones scream " why money for worshipping God....hindus are so bad ....their Hindu God is asking for money....our muslim God never asks for money....we are all EQUAL one ummah brotherhood....our christian God never asks for money...you pagans are bad.....".

Now you would understand the MUTE INDIGNATION of HINDUS.

Unlike China which checked population explosion India abets it for its business is poverty business.




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United States NoH1
September 5. 2013 03:51
NoH1

@uscitizen,

I'm done wasting time on shithead fags like you. Fuck off and die bitch!


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United States NoH1
September 5. 2013 03:52
NoH1

@Uscitizen
--The corporations are controlled by the banks. The banks are controlled by Wall St. Wall St. controls the gov't.
>>I never thought I would say this to you, but I whole heartedly agree to what you said above. Its 100% true and there is nothing you can do about it.

Exactly right but turds like USnotacitizen are in league with them and the enemy as well.


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United States James
September 5. 2013 04:51
James

$0 cost is too much if the product doesn't work.

Destroying your consumer class with cheap labor is not a good way to keep an economy going. Maybe the world can end up like India with a collapsing economy.

"I have to pay my people enough to enable them to buy my product".
-- Henry Ford


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United States uscitizen
September 5. 2013 07:47
uscitizen

@James,

>$0 cost is too much if the product doesn't work.
I agree. Sooner or later people are going to figure that out.

>Destroying your consumer class with cheap labor is not a good way to keep an >economy going. Maybe the world can end up like India with a collapsing economy.
The corporations dont care, so just worry about yourself.
E.g If the corporation wants to ship jobs and wants you to train their replacement, charge them $500 an hour.

Long back it was not all business. Unlike today, businesses and employees were loyal to each other. Now, its all about the bottom line. Since you cannot dictate what the business should do, you should consider adapting yourself to this way.

>"I have to pay my people enough to enable them to buy my product".-- Henry Ford
Ford did not foresee where the technology is today.
If he had a choice he too would have outsourced all of his IT.

-Uscitizen


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United States uscitizen
September 5. 2013 08:00
uscitizen

Noh1, should consider moving back to India and licking some toilets clean.
F off a hole bidrass bilyat, pashli ani nakhuyi, gaandan yubanee.



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Austria Der Fuhrer
September 5. 2013 15:54
Der Fuhrer

Why is it hard to  nuke hindu indians once for all, kill all degenerate subhuman manipulative hindus, nuke them ,USA and arabs must attack indians and destroy them , they are parasites in human form


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