Admin posted on April 30, 2009 13:23

Woe to you oh earth and sea.

For the Devil sends the beast with wrath.

Because he knows the time is short.

Let him who hath understanding

Reckon the number of the beast.

For it is a human number.

Its number is eight hundred and eighty seven.

S. 887

APRIL 23, 2009
Mr. DURBIN (for himself and Mr. GRASSLEY) introduced the following bill;
which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary


To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to reform and reduce fraud and abuse in certain visa programs for aliens working temporarily in the United States, and for other purposes.


H–1B and L–1 Visa Reform Act of 2009

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Tunnel Rat posted on April 28, 2009 13:26

Things are moving along in my case against the discriminating Desis over at the Curry Den. The Washington feds at the DOJ have now thrown the case over the wall to the local feds in L.A.

- Letter From DOJ

I can't really expect much, now that Obama has appointed the Desi Duo to run the federal I.T. infractructure.

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Tunnel Rat posted on April 27, 2009 18:46


My favorite Nasscom shill and pen pal, the Punjaba Professor Vivek Wadhwa, loves to run around and talk about all the startups he, uh, started up.

Well, not exactly.

His first "startup" was some obscure company that did some sort of screenscraping terminal emulation in the 1990's. More on them later -- the Insurgency is gathering info.

Fradhwa then moved on to CSFB, which spun off a company called Seer Technologies that was headed by Fradhwa. It IPO'd and he moved on to run another company, Relativity Technologies.

Run into the ground, that is.

Those losses left the company cash-poor, with just $174,000 at the end of 2002 and moving into negative territory -- minus $12,000 -- in 2003. "We were borrowing money to keep the company afloat," said Wadhwa, who remains
Relativity's chairman.

Wadhwa, who stepped down as CEO early last year, is suing Relativity for wrongfully terminating him from his job as a part-time, $100,000-a-year adviser, and to collect money he says is owed him. Relativity has sued Wadhwa for breach of fiduciary duty and breach of his employment agreement, among other things.


More to come...

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Tunnel Rat posted on April 23, 2009 18:49


I love trolling on Desi and Slumdog sites. It is so revealing.

Re: What will happen to desi companies where 100% are H1 employee
by ithinampassi on Apr 25, 2009 12:58 AM

They are already in trouble. All the desi companies who are engaged in fraud business is already started getting the heat. My friend got a knock on his door(he was on H1) from FBI and aksed about his company and how do they treat him.

This is happeneing all across america...

Our desis did it. They messed up the system for money...

Now all the dice ads changed to US Citizen or Green Card holders only...

Desis can not do their petty bargain and go by 6 layers to make 2cents /hour on a consultant... Can not do the stupid business anymore by bringing a zero experienced techie from India and sell him for $20.00 and make $80 profit out of him...and change him 12 jobs when gets fired and finally make him a good programmer till he finds another techie for $20.00....

This is ridiculous... To my knowledge a 80% Hyderabad based companie involved in this....

Yeah, no shit...

Re: Problem is not just H1-B
by Guest on Apr 25, 2009 03:05 AM Permalink
when a company intends to hire a skilled worker in March, some how do not find any American worker, he has the choice to hire a H1B worker. Then he will file the petition to sponsor a candidate for H1B Visa, but that will be effective only in October, what shall the company do till that time (almost 6 months), wait till the candidate gets his visa stamped and then join the company here??

Thats where the IT consulting companies come in to picture, they can provide the resource as and when required by the company. The law should be applicable to the companies intend to hire consultants, not on the consulting firms. I agree there are many firms taking advantages of the system loop holes, ICE is already working on those firms.

I dont know why many of you are ( who seems came here through the h1b program itself)shouting against the consulting firms, when you are the guys who make the choice to come through them to fulfill your american dream

Fuck the bodyshops.

Let us put a stop to Lakky Reddis
by ithinampassi on Apr 25, 2009 01:02

This is good. As it will stop all Lakki Bali reddys and of his type
who spoiled all the Desi status here.

Lakki reddy recently came ouf o
jail. He brought in poor girls from his village on H1 and was using them for his
physical needs. They put him in jail when one of the girls died of an accident.

His hotel Pasant in Bay area had all waiters in H1 Visa. Most of them
came for IT jobs....

See what happened. These senators make sense..
Even the real IT people got screwed up here because of idots like this.

Not surprising. 25% of Indians have been molested. Check out the blog.

That's all for now.


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Tunnel Rat posted on April 22, 2009 23:03

"Someone Was Always Angry At Him"

Mr. Kellermann, 41, began working non-stop, sometimes returning home only to change clothes, colleagues say. He was losing weight and telling friends that it seemed impossible to appease everyone — regulators, lawmakers, investors and other executives — with competing demands. Someone was always angry at him, he told one friend. And no matter how many hours everyone worked, it seemed like the economy and homeowners were still slipping further into the abyss.

Then earlier this month, Mr. Kellermann and other executives at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae became the focus of intense scrutiny when lawmakers learned they would receive bonuses totaling $210 million. Mr. Kellermann was set to receive $850,000 over 16 months. Reporters and camera crews showed up at his home in an affluent Washington suburb. Fearing that someone might attack his house, his wife or their 5-year-old daughter, he asked the company to provide a security detail.

FYI, hanging is the easiest sucide to stage. Actually, rather hard to do by yourself.

Now what if, just supposing, wondering, you know....

CFO David Kellermann Had It Coming?

After all, Fannie Mae was big fan of H-1Bs and India, Inc:

Bangalore/Chennai: Regulatory intervention in US financial institutions such as American International Group (AIG), Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae to avert insolvency, is unlikely to alter the outsourcing landscape for Indian vendors.

FBI investigating Fannie, Freddie, Lehman, AIG for fraud
Despite being controlled by the US Government, these entities may continue to take independent outsourcing decisions looking for technology solutions to cut costs.

Maybe Kellermann was behind all those decisions to give Freddie Mac work to India, Inc. ?
And did Kellermann hire a guy like this H-1B?
According to Nye, the FBI traced the malicious script to Makwana through Fannie Mae network logs, and by comparing the contents of a directory that Makwana created the day he was terminated with the naming scheme of temporary files on his laptop, which he turned in later that day.

An Indian national, Makwana was released on $100,000 bond. He also surrendered his passport and was barred from using computers or the Internet except for use in any job he holds as well as to communicate with his family in India.


And the rest of you CIOs/CTOs/CEOs in bed with India, Inc. will need better security than Kellermann had.

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Tunnel Rat posted on April 22, 2009 18:59

We in the Insurgency have been saying this for a long time, and just get called xenophobes and racists.

Well, fuck you, India, Inc.

YOU are the mysogonistic bigots, not Americans. Get the hell out of our country. Go back home and teach your people to read and wipe their ass.

And the whole offshore/outsourcing/onshoring scam is perpetuated by a whole slew of collaborators. HR, Immigration Lawyers, inept I.T. managers, finance people -- anybody that doesn't have to train their replacement.

It is time to let them know that WE WILL NEVER TRAIN OUR H-1B/L-1/Guest Worker/Offshore REPLACEMENT AGAIN.

In fact, we Americans that are left in I.T. will do everything we can to sabotage and disrupt offshoring, and especially onshoring, initiatives.

Drag our feet, get in the face of arrogant and ignorant imports, break their code, lock out their accounts, crash the dev servers -- anything and everything.

Call it a silent revolution.


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Tunnel Rat posted on April 20, 2009 19:06

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An Indian economist outlined the plan of the Hindu oligarchy to outbreed the Western culture in an article in the Times of India in October 10,2000.

“…Forget about an aggressive RSS takeover of the sub-continent, we should aim for a friendly takeover of the whole world, starting with the USA. Actually, takeover is the wrong word. More correctly, we must aim at a global inter-mingling where our sheer numbers matter. The world has six billion people, of whom one billion are Indians. Since population growth has slowed or halted in China and large parts of the West, by the year 2050 one in five human beings will be an Indian.”

“…The process is in its infancy still. But remember that most H1-B visa holders will become US residents, and bring over several family members too. Something similar will happen in Germany and other Western countries. So, in a few decades, we can look forward to the creation of a huge global brainpower network of 50 million people of Indian origin. These will constitute a tiny fraction of the global population, but a big slice of the influential global population. “

“…They will matter in academics, business, stock markets, law, medicine and the arts. And so they will matter in politics too…”

Thus, almost 10 years later, we are seeing the plan come to fruition. The invasion of the upper-caste Indians continues, and all Americans will soon be drinking out of clay cups, unless something is done.

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Supposedly, America's biggest shill for the slumdog industry, Professor Vivek Wadhwa, is getting death threats.

I can neither confirm not deny that I have been making death threats to this vile propagandist for the H[indu]-1B lobby.

But I have been chatting with this creep, using the alias of Kevin Flanagan.

Here's how it started:

Mr. Wadhwa,

The DOJ is investigating numerous companies for L-1 fraud, and the DOL is auditing all H-1B dependent companies.

The H-1B and L-1 Visas are modern day Jim Crow laws, subjecting American hi-tech professionals to abuse at the hands of India, Inc.

Here's my letter to David Boies (famed attorney):

Mr. Boies,

I am reaching out to you for some advice.

I am programmer and have been working in I.T. for about 15 years. Recently I started having a hard time finding new contract gigs, and the contract rates have been cut drastically to the point that they are about the same as a full time employee, minus the benefits.

I know my industry has been impacted by offshoring, but even more stunning is the massive influx of low-wage, mostly low-skill workers from India. These workers come over under the H-1B and L-1 visa programs to fill a mythical programmer shortage. This is a canard created by the hi-tech companies so that they can suppress wages and displace American I.T. professionals.

Recently, I was forced to start looking for work all over California because I couldn’t find anything in O.C. I even flew to Sacramento to interview for a contract in Modesto, and was prepared to leave my family for a few months. I never got the offer, which was good.

Instead, I spent three weeks contracting at an Indian software company that develops systems for the pharmaceutical industry, and worked on programs for Amgen. The experience was a nightmare. I was the only white male on a team of 15, with four being non-Indians. The staff spoke Hindi all the time, and it was a sweatshop. The company had flown in seven coders and QA people from New Delhi and they lived in a motel around the corner.

Fortunately, I found another contract and was able to walk out of the place. I didn’t give notice and enjoyed departing. One of my contractor buddies had interviewed for one of the two programming positions, and he was rejected. He is a really sharp guy and could run circles around the folks they brought from India.

I was so disgusted with the whole situation that I reported the company to the Dept. of Labor for H-1B fraud. They should have hired locals and instead flew in a crew from India. A DOL agent in S.F. took the case, and I talked to him yesterday. He said very few cases are prosecuted because there are so many loopholes. He is filing a report but said that their preliminary investigation determined that the case was out of their jurisdiction. He urged me to contact the Civil Rights department of the DOJ that handles L-1 fraud.

Companies like the one I worked for bring in millions of workers under intra-company transfers through the L-1 program, and they are supposed to prove that no local worker can fill the spot. The system is so corrupt and full of loopholes that any company can be technically compliant and still avoid hiring Americans. An immigration lawyer even gives seminars on how to avoid hiring U.S. citizens:

The reason I am contacting you is because I feel that there is rampant discrimination against American workers in the I.T. industry at the hands of the Indian software lobby. If you walk into some of the I.T. departments, you will see 80-90% Indian staffs. They have a monopoly, and exploit workers from India by confiscating their passports and forcing them to work unpaid overtime. These workers show up in big companies and American workers are forced to train them, and then the citizens are fired. IBM just laid off 5,000 U.S. employees, and many were forced to train their Indian replacements. There is massive fraud and corruption in the system, and American programmers are being decimated. Many are leaving the field.

With the bad economy, displaced I.T. professionals are starting to organize and agitate to abolish these guest worker visas. It is becoming evident that offshoring software development doesn’t save companies any money, so they are trying to use these visas to ship in programmers who can be onsite and compliant. The infrastructure is horrific in India, and there are so many obstacles to creating and running corporate computer systems that it has become a fiscal liability to do all work offshore. But the big companies like Wells Fargo, State Farm – anybody that needs massive I.T. manpower, are now bringing the cheap labor here.

The net result is that guys like me see their wages declining and work scarce. I know people that have been looking for jobs for months. They can’t get interviews because the Indian lobby has cornered the market and staff only their own people.

I think there is a potential for a large class action lawsuit against American tech companies, the Indian bodyshops, and the Indian offshoring consulting companies like Infosys and WiPro. You may have heard about the Satyam scandal. There is plenty of anecdotal and statistical evidence that Americans are getting forced out of the global I.T. industry. For example 55,000 of the 65,000 allotted H-1B visas in 2007 went to Indian workers, who are essentially indentured servants, forced to work for one company and frequently abused. The companies have pitted the foreign workers against the local employees and the industry is in chaos; the imported workers lack the skills to do the work, and the Americans are forced to train them or get fired.

I suggest that the time is ripe for a civil rights battle. American I.T. professionals are getting displaced in large numbers, and the H-1B lobby and India, Inc. want to lift ALL visa caps. This is nothing more than an attempt to arbitrage employee wages.

What say you?


Kevin Flanagan

Low and behold, he had the balls to respond to an American. That was mighty kind of an upper-caste Desi to chat with a cracker:

From: Prof. Vivek Wadhwa []
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:52 AM
To: 'Tunnel Rat'
Subject: RE: H-1B and L-1 Visas Now a Civil Rights Issue

Kevin, it is nice to get an intelligent and respectful message from you.

I understand the issue you are raising. There are a lot of third-rate body shops who bring in unqualified workers. And the H1B visa is flawed. It is clear that you have seen the worst of the immigration system. But there are also many skilled immigrants who have contributed in a big way to the U.S. economy. I know hundreds of these people and was a tech CEO myself. You can ask Norm Matloff about my background. My first company employed 1000 AMERICAN workers at its peak and the second had about 150 Americans and 50 Russians.

You may also have read my research which showed that more than half of Silicon Valley’s startups from 1995-2005 had immigrant CEO’s or CTO’s (I believe that both of these are equally critical positions). They employed 450,000 workers in 2005 – which is more than all of the H1B’s visas issued to tech workers in that period. So at the macro level, skilled immigrants added to employment.

But you are right that the H1B lends itself to abuse and you have seen this first-hand. My solution is to abolish this visa altogether and require companies to bring workers in only on permanent resident visas. No, this won’t create a flood of workers because permanent residents have the right to leave a job if they are being underpaid or abused. And companies won’t risk bringing in third-rate talent when this costs them as much as first-rate American talent plus $10-20K in visa and relocation costs. You would have far fewer skilled workers coming here under the approach I am suggesting. And we would probably see the benefits which top –tier immigrants can provide by fueling innovation and starting companies.

I wish you the best and would be glad to help you if I can.



I told you folks that Wadhwa want's to ban the H-1B visa. Of course, he wants to floodgates open to bring in a few million more slumdogs so that he can have another startup that pimps them out to corporate America. I let him know I was on to the game that is being played by the Desi Mafia:

From: Tunnel Rat []
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 5:05 PM
To: 'Prof. Vivek Wadhwa'
Subject: RE: H-1B and L-1 Visas Now a Civil Rights Issue

Mr. Wadhwa,

Thanks for your response. I look forward to seeing the entire H-1B and L-1 programs abolished. But I dread a new poorly written law that will be immediately enacted to take their place, because then my career will truly be over.

And just between me and you, your community has been less than humble as they displace Americans. While I limit my outrage to blogging and online rants, I get messages from many unemployed programmers who are on the verge of suicide and violence because of the arrogance displayed by the foreign workers sent here to displace them. It does not help your cause to have our guest workers disparage Americans as lazy and stupid, which is the common theme in the cyber salons and corporate I.T. departments.

I suggest that you spread the word and let the latest wave of guest workers and their advocates know that their reputation in the I.T. industry is not very impressive and that they are breeding a lot of animosity with their insular and nepotistic behavior.

You may also suggest to them that they start hiring some Americans.


Then the scumbag really creeped me out. HE WANTED TO MEET ME. Probably to have one of his Sikh buddies stab with a kirpan:

From: Prof. Vivek Wadhwa
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 7:28 PM
'Tunnel Rat'
Subject: RE: H-1B and L-1 Visas Now a Civil Rights Issue

Kevin, there are fools on both sides who make dumb claims. My own research has shown that American workers have excellent skills and it is not shortages or skill deficiencies which are driving companies abroad – it is cost considerations. If there are Indian programmers who come here with a sense of superiority, they are fooling no one but themselves. They should be the first to be fired and thrown out.

The real problem here is age. Companies prefer younger workers because they are cheaper. Older programmers no matter how skilled they are aren’t cost competitive with new recruits from school or new hires from abroad. The sad reality is that we can’t stop globalization. My research has focused on how the U.S. can benefit rather than suffer.

My first recommendation is that we invest heavily in workforce training. American companies stopped doing this about 20 years ago and they expect workers to keep themselves current. Some tech workers do, but the vast majority don’t. And companies readily find excuses to let them go. If we made it mandatory for companies to provide 1 to 2 weeks of education leave – just like they are required to provide vacation, and we subsidized education, we would have a stronger and more adaptable workforce. This has been the secret of India’s success. Despite a weak education system, top Indian companies started investing heavily in workforce training and education. I am not talking about the body-shops, I am talking about the top companies like Infosys.

Do a search on for my articles about these issues. I know you won’t like the ones in which I advocate skilled immigration, but read the ones about why companies are going offshore, skills of Americans vs. Indians and Chinese, age discrimination in tech, and some on entrepreneurship. I don’t have time to respond to Mike and won’t respond to messages which reflect racial bias as his does, but he can read the report on the contribution of skilled immigrants by downloading this report -- Let him know that you can’t generalize about Indians as you can’t generalize about Americans or Europeans. Everyone is different. There are bad people in every community and there are more good people.

By the way, where are you based? If you are in San Francisco, I would be glad to meet you for a cup of coffee.



Here's the take away from that response:

My own research has shown that American workers have excellent skills and it is not shortages or skill deficiencies which are driving companies abroad – it is cost considerations.

I closed with this salvo:

Mr. Wadhwa,

I agree that the issues are complex. I am an I.T contractor and technically a resource that companies turn to when they can’t find skills from within their own staff.

But I am focusing on one issue – the onshoring of low-wage and generally low[er]-skill guest workers. When companies do so, they perpetuate a cycle that is destructive to the professionals in I.T. The pattern is such:

1. Find low-wage and low-skill junior workers to do the jobs of higher paid senior developers (disregarding the intangibles that decades of real-life experience bring), or even mid-career professionals who, because of their talent and efforts to keep current in the field, command a premium wage.

2. Implicitly or explicitly force the senior tech professionals to train their junior replacements.

3. Suppress the wages of the I.T. workers by keeping a steady stream of imported guest workers that serve to corrupt the natural forces of supply and demand that determine prevailing wages.

4. Discourage young people to enter the industry by keeping compensation flat or declining.

5. Demand more guest workers because the academic institutions are not supplying enough skilled workers, who have shunned the profession because they have witnessed points 1 and 2.

It is all rather unseemly. The agents of irrational globalization are pitting one group against another in an effort to arbitrage wages and maximize profit. Folks like me are left as gladiators, forced to fight an ever increasing wave of guest workers for good positions in tech, even though we bring more to the table.

Going offshore is one thing, but now these companies want it both ways.
After seeing the failures of so many offshore I.T. initiatives, they want the workers on site, but don’t want to pay local rates. So they create legal structures that amount to modern day Jim Crow laws, where they can legally exclude higher-paid local talent.

I welcome the companies to go offshore. Let them deal with the time zone issues, the calls in the middle of the night, the power outages. If they can still make money, fine. But software development is a highly collaborative process and requires human capital of diverse disciplines. To import the foreign coders and make them live out of suitcases while an American with a family to feed is displaced, all for convenience and profit, smacks of avarice and greed.

Finally, I agree with you that there are more good people than bad in all communities. By boss is an Indian chap and a U.S. citizen and we get along great. He too feels the impact that the guest workers have on his wages and he is not pleased.

Sorry, no coffee until the H-1B and L-1 visas are abolished.


I hear that Professor Wadhwa is mobilizing the Desis on to respond the tsunami of anti-slumdog sentiment. Expect a flood of Hinglish comments on Dice, here, and anywhere else in cyber-space where the topic of the slumdog invasion of I.T. comes up. It's so funny when the real racists -- the Hinduvistas and Goltis -- show up and start calling Americans racist.

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Robert Hoffman showed his preppy pussified face on T.V. again. Last week, Norm Matloff kicked his ass on NPR, and now Alan Tonelson gets his licks in.

This Hoffman clown is one stupid motherfucker. He just keeps repeating this mantra:

We need more slumdogs...The reason we need more slumdogs is because we don't graduate enough Americans in STEM...We don't graduate enough Americans in STEM so we need more slumdogs...

Airtime: Wed. Apr. 15 2009 9:20 AM ET Debating whether the government should give more visas to highly skilled foreign workers as Americans continue to lose jobs, with Alan Tonelson, U.S. Business and Industry Council and Robert Hoffman, Oracle.

And I have to write an email to the Brazilian bitch from CNBC, Michelle Cubrerra or something. I know she is a hard core right winger, but she needs to get her facts straight before talking about "hiring foreigners."

It's not about the foreigners, bitch. It's about the low-wage, low-skill slumdogs that have been shipped in to destroy America's economy.


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